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Originally posted by James Bond: Sure I did. Not that she appreciated it. I'm not talking in theory here. Now that I'm old and bitter I'm not sure I would do it again.

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Good news! And happy end!

Don't listen to James, for some reason he was out of luck with women. Chances to meet a great woman here and overseas are probably comparable/ same. At least the rate of failure is the same whomever you marry!

Good luck! 

I was walking around today and couldn't help noticing there were a few American girls that weren't FAT.

Maybe they were all Russian??

Anyway, I'm hoping Alice_inUSA will move in with me, and then I don't have to go all the way to Ukraine and do ALL that paperwork to find a skinny girl.

lol

Pozharnik:

Not only is weight an issue, but even more so, it is attitude.  i am just tired of American women and their attitudes...ick.

lol....  So anytime we aren't interested in YOU, we have a bad attitude or are stuck up (as you said in an earlier post)? 

Whatever happened to just accusing us of being lesbians if we reject you?  Or, do you use that one also?

Dude,

American women aren't any better/worse than Ukranian women.  The sooner you figure that out, the better off you will be when your Ukranian woman starts 'training' you.

Now, she may be more passionate.  So why don't you just come out and say that - instead of posting definitions from wikipedia.  For some reason, old world women from eastern europe ARE more passionate.  But that doesn't mean they have less attitude.  They have lots more 'stuff' simmering below the surface.  lol

By definition, 'women' = 'attitude'. 

Just like 'men' = 'assholes'

Pozharnik:

It has nothing to do with rejection, and your post makes my point very clear...it is that very attitude that turns me away from American women.  Hail oh Hail the American woman...yeah, yeah...what a crock.  Anyway...If you have something positive to add, go ahead..if not, keep it to yourself.

Ah, so this "attitude" of which you speak is merely the act of questioning you... in this case, questioning your assessment/condemnation of roughly half of the population of an entire nation...

As for your command to keep it to myself, fortunately I am not in a situation rendering me helpless and dependent upon you, so I rather doubt I'll be obeying.

Has anyone else ever noticed how easily these guys anger, nearly without exception?  Disturbing, but not too surprising...

What a pleasure reading so many uninformed views in such a small space. To the guys who wrote I have a simple message "it is futile to resist" and to the women "it is even more futile to resist". I am going to marry a Ukrainian woman next week. I have no choice - the pro's are overwealming. Kick me for being racist if you like - but Im not - thats between me and God - he knows me. But the fact is Ukraine is stacked to the brim with the most beautiful women in the world that share my culture and genetic background (all Northmen inc American ones hail from the Ukraine - its a fact - we poured out of the Ukrainian Ice Refuge after the Younger Dryas - last iceage). Why is this relevant - because we are all attracted to people that look like us. And there are so many blonde goddesses back in the Slavic homeland. And anyway all guys love blondes - if blonde is not extra beautiful why do more girls choose this colour than any other - and such chiselled beautiful faces - a touch of the Khans. Walking down Kreschatick "dont rib me if I misspelled it" is like walking down the busy catwalk of a french fashion show. These women are stunning and yes now that they are able to go on foriegn holidays (we do that in Europe) and mix with other european woman of course they know it. They ask me - why don't your girls take care of themselves - no pedicure, no perfume, such bad skin, so fat (size 12 or over), makeup so careless, and so casually dressed they observe. Oh and why do your girls get so drunk on holiday and are so casual about sex with guys they meet? What can I say when I see fat drunken Sue draping all over the turkish waiter with her tongue in his ear. And so I ask myself - Why are Ukrainian women so thin, well dressed, elegant, presentable (to Mum or the Boss) and well dressed? Its not cash for sure - they dont have a lot - but a girl will spend a months wage on a pair of italian shoes rather spend the money on a complete outfit of lesser quality. Why will they have one $200 bottle of perfume than 4 x $50 bottles? Why is such obsession with perfection and the best clothes and perfume almost universal in Kiev? The answer I think is the 5/4 thing, and their location in Europe. There are 5 woman to very 4 guys - being at the gateway to Russian both the French and Germans have rampaged through and killed off the best guys - sorry liberals but Darwin started it not me. The result was the remaining guys had their pick of the best women and girly genes have wreaked havoc producing the most gorgeous, femanine and loving girls in the world. Guys write out your shopping list of features for the girl of your dreams and then find 4 or 5 who fit the bill in any Kiev bar. Oh, but yes, they are not stupid - fighting for the few good men has made them ruthless and clever. Dont worry about being hurt or ripped off lie back and enjoy it and with any luck it will last. But dont miss it. And western girls believe me your Genes are on a short lease. The Russians are coming. They want what many girls in the West don't want or need - a real man - the ones with big arms who will be standing upright when they need male support. Yes, before long they will be like you - career minded, casual trouser loving, overconfident, and greedy, because its all available to them, but they will see out a lot of the current gene stock before that happens. I am from the UK and been married twice - and my exs were among the best the UK had to offer - I still love them - I had 5 children in all - my marraiges ended because I wanted more than ex's could give - last wife wanted to spend all her time on high flying job in London - huge ego - maybe as big as mine. Oh yes, we are all selfish. So I found myself a Kiev girl - she is my age, oddly for UK/UKr relationships. What a cold shower! Her name is Maryna, blonde, icey cool, but wild when provoked - (looks like Debbie Harry of Blondie fame). I took my eldest son (1st Marraige) over to meet her. He is now engaged to her friend, also Maryna (18 years younger). His girl has a great life in Kiev and yet she has agreed to move to the UK with him. She has no kids, is single, works for a big company as a marketing executive, looks like Angelina Jollie (they're not all blonde), practices Russian Martial Arts, drives rally cars, been around the world, has 2 university degrees (they actually mean something in Ukraine), speaks Russian, Ukrainian, Italian, French and English fluently, and her father is a Ukrainian hero of sorts. But most important she is so modest and respectful. I hope he hangs on to her long enough to produce kids. I think he will - he has charisma, intelligence and the looks (ok I'm dad). But he knows, like I know, that we have got the better part of the deal. In the UK we could not get better. Maybe we should go down-market to reduce the chances of getting dumped - no way hahahahahahaha. I'd rather die lonely and miserable, than miss one minute of today. But just a word of warning to USA guys - dont flash the cash. They know it's there - play it cool - be a good guy - be respectful and look after their mums. Don't hesitate to bring their mums over - the guy who worries about guys having to bring over the rest of a foriegn brides family needs to get a better paid job - some land of Milk and Honey mate!! In England we still remember the GI Brides who discovered the real USA was no Hollywood. Look all you Yanks, we havent had a European war for quite a while, so  dont sit back waiting for one to happen before you take a trip to refresh the gene pool, get a flight to Kiev and I'll see you on Kreschatick.

Kakdala 

Dave

Ummm... Dave, maybe you could ask one of those brilliant Ukrainian women to explain the concept of paragraphs to you.* 

That was kind of like barging into someone's home and projectile vomiting all over the furniture before even bothering to introduce yourself...

* I'm sure some members of this forum fit that description.  Maybe they would be willing to help.

to the author of the topic:

Congrats! wishing happy, interesting and passionate life together.

Nobody knows what's gonna happen, but at least we all could be kind enough to wish happiness to anyone who's trying to build a family these days......no one's personal issues and bad experiences have anything to do with others life  

Minime21:

to the author of the topic:

Congrats! wishing happy, interesting and passionate life together.

Nobody knows what's gonna happen, but at least we all could be kind enough to wish happiness to anyone who's trying to build a family these days......no one's personal issues and bad experiences have anything to do with others life  

In a vacuum, I totally agree, but it becomes a bit difficult to merely do that when the announcement is followed by such vitriol.

If I said "Minime21, I got a hot new car", you would probably be happy for me. 

But, what if I said:

"Minime21, I got a hot new car and MY new car isn't a piece of trash like the one YOU are driving.  Your car shouldn't even be allowed on the road.  Your engine sucks and your car is ugly and only a loser would drive your car.  Everyone laughs at your car.  Now my car is hot.  It is shiny and fast and new.  That car is pretty lucky to have me drive it too, because the people who usually get hot cars like mine just trash them.  They buy cheap gas and scratch the paint and tear up the transmission.  Yep, I am the best thing that ever happened to that car and that new car is totally better than the slow, ugly cars losers drive."

I'm guessing that if I said the latter, congratulating me on my new car would not be the first thing you'd want to say to me. 

:)

(Edited to say that I just noticed that you addressed that to the topic author and not to the guy to whom I just responded.  Actually, I never commented to the topic author until the second page when he started in with the same trash.)